Illinois vs. August Spies et al. trial transcript no. 1. Direct examination by Mr. Grinnell. Testified on behalf of the Prosecution, People of the State of Illinois. Police lieutenant at the Haymarket meeting. Testified on various topics (page numbers provide a partial guide): actions of police during the Haymarket meeting (vol.J 78), trajectory of the bomb (vol.J 79), the explosion (vol.J 80), medical care and wounds (vol.J 82).
Testimony of George W. Hubbard, 1886 July 22.
Volume J, 78-84, 7 p.
Hubbard, George W.
Lieutenant, Chicago Police Department.
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Illinois vs. August Spies et al. trial transcript no. 1.
Direct examination by Mr. Grinnell. Testified on behalf of the Prosecution, People of the State of Illinois.
Police lieutenant at the Haymarket meeting. Testified on various topics (page numbers provide a partial guide): actions of police during the Haymarket meeting (vol.J 78), trajectory of the bomb (vol.J 79), the explosion (vol.J 80), medical care and wounds (vol.J 82).
George W. Hubbard,
a witness for the people having been duly sworn, was examined in chief by Mr. Grinnell, and testified as follows:
Q What is your name?
A George W. Hubbard.
Q You are lieutenant of the police force?
A Yes sir
Q And you were at the Desplaines street station on the 4th of May at the time you were asked to fall in?
A I was.
Q And marched to the place of the meeting?
A Yes sir.
Q Where was your company situated--located? In reference to the other companies?
A We were the third division; there were four companies in front of me, and two companies forming a division, making two divisions, and I formed the third. There were two companies behind me.
Q Two companies behind you located where, when you came to the halt?
A When we came to a halt they were--I could not say where they were, but their orders were for one company to face west and close Randolph, and the other to face east and close Randolph behind us.
Q Your company then, was in the rear of the five? There were five companies marching down?
A Yes sir.
Q Yours was the rear company of the five?
A I was the rear company that went out into the crowd.
Q You may give me the location of the companies as you
A The first division was composed of one company commanded by Lt. Steele, and the other by Lt. Quinn,
Q The next behind?
A The second division was Lt. Bowler and company and Lt. Stanton and company, and the third division was my company; but being a large company, so I divided in two, and I had one wing and Sergeant Fitzpatrick who was drill master, had the other wing or platoon.
Q How far were you behind Stanton's company and Bowlers?
A I myself was about four feet.
Q Behind them?
A And the company was about six-feet behind me.
Q Were you near enough to hear what occured, the orders and so forth at the wagon, to distinguish it?
A I could hear the sound of the voices but I could not hear exactly what was said.
Q Did you see the bomb?
A I did, when it was about six feet from the ground. That was a little strong--I did not see the bomb because it appeared to be about the color of the atmosphere, but I saw a little tail of fire quivering as it fell right in front of me.
Q How far in front of you?
A Well, it was not more than six feet in front of me, because it fell in the center of the second division, and appeared to roll a little in advance of that, and there was one large officer appeared to make a motion with the foot, towards it as if he was going
to stamp, trying to stamp it.
Q Do you know who that was?
A I did not at the time.
Q Was he with you?
A I do not know who the officer was because I did not really know what officers composed the company. I learned afterwards that it was--
Mr. BLACK--Never mind what you learned afterwards?
A It was some officer that I think was on the right of Stanton's company.
Mr. GRINNELL--Now, what happened then when the explosion took place?
A It immediately exploded. And so far as I could see the entire division disappeared.
Q Front of you?
A The division in front of me all disappeared except the two ends, which was really two thirds of the division. They went down, but a great many of them got up again, and of course got up in a kind of disorder, and then I flanked the left of the division.
Q In reference to that first--was there any firing before that bomb was thrown or exploded?
A No sir. That was the first sound.
Q In reference to the explosion of the bomb when did the firing begin?
A Almost immediately.
Q From what source did it come?
A From both sides of the street and north of me.
Q Now, what did you do when you found that firing begun, the explosion of the bomb and the firing?
the Sergeant who was in command of one half of my company, and myself--I divided it-- and I being on the left rushed them right around towards the sidewalk and commenced answering the charge from that quearter, and Fitz the other way to the east, and we commenced shouting right into the crowd on the sidewalk, faced them right and left.
Q How was your company armed as they went down the street?
A We had our regular revolvers in our pockets. And we had a larger revolver in a socket attached to our belt, upon the outside.
Q How about clubs?
A The clubs were also--the club in its socket and the revolver in its socket, were both hanging to the left side of each officer.
Q Had the pistols or clubs been pulled before the explosion of the bomb?
A No sir; they were all in the pockets
Q You had your club in your hand.
A Yes sir: I had my club in my hand, yes sir.
Q As you marched down?
A Yes sir.
Q How many men were in your company including Fitzpatrick, your Sergeant?
Q How many of them were injured, if you know?
A Seven were injured by the explosion, and two of them were also, injured by bullets.
Q Did any of them die?
A No sir; they are still laid up-- two of them are. The wounds won't heal; there is
something the trouble with them. Michael O'Brien has two wounds in the hip, or one in the hip and the other in the thigh, and he is still laid up. It appears as if the wounds won't heal, as the metal is still in him, whatever it is. It has never been taken out; it cannot be located.
Cross examination waived.
A JUROR--(Mr. Brayton:) I would like to, ask officer Hubbard to take a piece of paper here, and draw a rough diagram of the positions of the different companies as they marched up, that evening previous to the explosion of the bomb.
THE COURT--I do not think that would be admissible. Diagrams of moveable objects are never introduced in evidence.
Mr. GRINNELL--Describe, Lt. Hubbard, for the benefit of the jury the position of your companies, as you marched down the street after you got in line coming up from Waldo place. Give the front, designating them clear back to the rear.
Mr. BRAYTON--Please name the companies in the front line. Commencing at the right, at the east?
A Commencing at the right?
Q Yes sir.
A Lt. Steele I think, was on the right. And Lt. Quinn on the left of the 1st division.
THE COURT--Well, how many ranks does a division consist of?
A Well, that is two ranks deep;
Mr. GRINNELL--That is, there were two rows of men, right straight across the street.
A Two rows of men right straight across the street--from curb to curb.
THE COURT--Well, now, the second division?
A The 2nd division was in similar form, Lt. Bowler on the right and Lt. Stanton on the left, also filling the street from curb to curb, the two ranks. And I was on the left--Serg. Fitzpatrick was on the right, and myself on the left of our company, which being only twenty-eight men we had to spread them a little further apart in order to reach from curb to curb. Lt. Penzen was in command of the next company.
Mr. BRAYTON--I thought you said yours was the rear company?
A In the line of march to the crowd, but in the line of march up towards Randolph street their orders were as soon as they reached Randolph street, Lt. Penzen was to face his company to the left and face them west, and close Randolph street at DesPlaines, on the west side of DesPlaines. Lt. Beard was in command of the 7th Company which was in the rear, on the street. And he was to face his company east.
Mr. GRINNELL--That was to guard the rear?
A That was to guard the rear and prevent any parties from coming around Randolph street, or the Haymarket, and coming in behind
us, and then from Randolph street up to the meeting on DesPlaines, which was north of Randolph street; only the three divisions went up into the crowd and I was there the rear division.